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  • I am a 60 year old male born 12/01/1944 recieving a small pension 0f $234.67 per month for the remainer of my life. What is my life expectancy given that I have been diagnosed with prostate cancer and have elected not to intervene with conventional medical proceedures (surgery or radiation). What is a reasonable discount rate? Finally, how does this calculate to a lump sum value that can be used for splitting the retirement accounts in my divorce settlement?


  • A reasonable discount rate would be a US Treasury bill or bond or similar investment. In l0oking up the US Treasurey 2 year Bond it is yielding 3.94 %. To calculate the present value taking NOT taking into account your mortality it would be 234.67 + (234.67* ((1/1.0394)^(1/12))) + (234.67* ((1/1.0394)^(2/12))) + (234.67* ((1/1.0394)^(3/12))) + ... + 234.67 * (1/1+interest) ^ (payment in the future month/12) This is assuming that the payments are at the begining of the month. (the ^ means raise to the power of) You can do this is a spread sheet quite easily to see the series of payments. (Each factor is the present value of 234.67 at some future time, so the sum of all of those is the present value.) The mortality piece is just like an interest discount. Since you are living now the first factor (234.67 would be discounted by your probability of living (100%) or 234.67 * 1 = 234.67. Lets say you have a 10% chance of dying each month. (I don't know what the chance is, you will have to look up or consult an actuary for people with prostate cancer and given how far along it is or is not.) Your probability of surviving one month is 90% so the discount for the 2nd month is 234.67 * .9 * ((1/1.0394)^(1/12))) = 234.67 * .897106 = 210.52 The discount for the 3rd month is the probability of surviving 2 months discounted by 2 months worth of interest. 234.67 * .9^2 * ((1/1.0394)^(2/12))) or 234.67 * .9 * .9* ((1/1.0394)^(2/12))) = .08048 * 234.67 = 188.86 and so on. Then you add them together 234.67 + 210.52 + 188.86 +... If you do this for 60 months you end up with about $2,932.98. (adding all 60 months together) At that point you are adding about a penny or less per month in present value. So call it about $2933.00. This is assuming 3.94 as the interest rate and a 10% mortality per month. For a healthy person a 10% mortaility rate per month is very high. The average for someone like 65 is about 1% per year! If you do the math you will see the mortality rate has the largest effect on the discount. I have no idea what that should be.


  • 1. Firstly to deal with the life expectancy / mortality side of your query. No doubt mortality statistics of this sort have been calculated for the sort of treatment that you are undergoing. For example, I understand that there are new treatments that have recently emerged involving injections which suppress male hormones. When this treatment was tested, I would imagine that mortality rates would have been calculated for those undergoing the tests and those on a placebo or other types of treatment. So the answer to the life expectancy part of your question would depend on the precide details of the type of treatment that you are undergoing, which you have not specified. In the absence of specific information I will try to answer the life expectancy part of your question in general terms, following the type of method that an underwriter at a life insurance company might conceivably use. I start off with my assessment of your life expectancy by examining the life tables compiled from the general population statistics from the country where you live, presumably the USA. If you were English I would use the English Life Tables No. 15 (ELT 15) as the starting point. Next, I would look at the general improvements in mortality that have been experienced over the past few decades and extrapolate them into the future. This is a bit controversial because it is by no means certain that the improvements in mortality that have been experienced in the past will continue into the future, given the increasing incidence of obesity, the possibility of new types of diseases arising and so on. There are various views about how mortality will increase in the future. Again, ELT 15 shows mortality improvements at various ages over a considerable period and might form a useful basis for projection. The next step is the trickiest - it would involve estimating the reduction in your life expectancy given the knowledge of your diagnosis. Underwriters at life insurance companies refer to books which have estimates of the reduction in life expectancy corresponding with "impairments" (i.e. diseases or disabilities which reduce life expectancy) and I would guess that someone with cancer would usually be turned away for most types of life cover. I do not have access to such a "rate making" book. My guess is that this would reduce your life expectancy by about 5 years. NB This is just a wild guess. The following point is slightly pedantic - if you are going to calculate the capital value of a life annuity, it is incorrect to take the discounted value of the annuity certain based on the life expectancy at the appropriate age - but the answer will not be far off. 2. Appropriate discount rate The appropriate discount rate would be that corresponding to the zero coupon bond of credit risk the same as that underlying Treasury Bonds and of duration equal to your life expectation. (Theoretically this is not quite right but it would be a good proxy for the correct situation provided that the yield curve is fairly flat.) If your income is increasing, the discount rate should be offset by the expected rate of increase. For example, if the increase rate is fixed at 3% per annum, and the zero coupon bond of appropriate duration. If the increase rate is equal to the rate of inflation, then you might be able to estimate this from inflation swaps of the same duration as your life expectation. 3. How does this relate to the lump sum for splitting your retirement accounts There are quite a few considerations when determining the lump sum. Some are as follows: - A. What share of your existing retirement income your wife would have been entitled to claim in the marriage? - B. Does your annuity policy pay a spouse's contingent pension, and if so, is your current wife nominated as the spouse, or is it to whoever you are married when you die, or some other definition? - C. What share of your wife's exisiting retirement income would you have been entitled to claim in the marriage? When apportioning your combined assets, the capital value of A, B, and C needs to be taken into account. Your portion is reduced by because of A, but increased because of B and C. I have answered your question in very general terms - you would need to offer a lot more money for the answer for me to give specifics.







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