Whi is vB better (or worse) than PHPbb or Ikonboard?
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-vBulletin's competition is other non-free bulletin board software.
-large companies normally invest in something they can get support for, because if they used free software like phpBB or any other free board, they would have very limited and/or delayed support; or they would need to train a person/team within their company to support the software.
- If you cannot afford vB and/or a free board has all the features you need, they by all means use it.
- Even if the list of big companies or people with big boards, purchased after phpBB2 was released is small, larger companies tend to take a while to make buying decisions.
Now, I'm off to renew my access to the Members' Area for my license.
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Heck, I beg to differ here.
I am running both Ikonboard and vB and have found Ikonboard to be MUCH quicker at responding to my queries than vB is. Matter of fact, I have a trouble ticket in now for a problem I had trying to do the import program that I put in last night and have yet to hear a peep out of anyone.
So why do I want to convert from Ikonboard to vBulletin? Quite simply because I think the vBulletin product is better than Ikonboard. At least from the administrative side of things. But I am doing this in spite of the tech support of vB, not because of it.
For a paid product, I would think tech support would be a little bit more on the ball.
I certainly hope the documentation for the converters other than Ikonboard3 are better than what I see with this one. Talk about shooting in the dark........ :eek:
I am running both Ikonboard and vB and have found Ikonboard to be MUCH quicker at responding to my queries than vB is. Matter of fact, I have a trouble ticket in now for a problem I had trying to do the import program that I put in last night and have yet to hear a peep out of anyone. I responded to your ticket this morning. The problem is that most of the support team has no functioning knowledge of the import scripts. Your original ticket from yesterday was assigned to the person who wrote the IB importer and who is in the best position to help. I'm sorry he hasn't responded yet. I'll see what I can do to get you the assistance.
If you wish to pay a toll, you can send it to me.;)
NO matter which board I looked at, I keep on coming back to vBulletin. The design was excellent. Superb quality design in both forum and administration.
Interface was superb in every possible method
Fast
User Friendly
Idiot Proof
Great Support Team
Great Sales Team
I asked a few questions during my pre-sale phase and Chen, Wayne, Steve answered my questions within a timely manner (waited less than 8hrs! )
vBulletin lived up to every claim it made and better! I made a promise that I would buy and own a licensed copy of vBulletin and even to this day I've yet to regret making that purchase.
You may think phpBB/Ikonboard/Invision Board is great, but use vBulletin long enough, and you see how superb this product is. I still do not regret purchasing the license to use vBulletin and I never will :)
I won't say why I think vbulletin is better; it depends on what your needs are. However it is worth looking at what the "big people" use for their forum software. We have a list http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/show...&threadid=47430 of some of the big forums that use vbulletin. It might be worth asking at other companies sites for a list of their biggest forums.
seems a reasonable request to me.
My suggestion to you is to decide what you need and look around and see what fits that need. Check out what your favorite sites use for forums and how well it works for them. Also look at Webmaster Resource related sites and see what people really say about the different forum packages.
my advice: if you have the money, take the superior product. if you dont have the money, take the still brilliant but harder to use product.
phpbb or ikonboard is for the little hobby guy, who doesn't need solid and worth support, or doesn't run a server that should handle the load of active members etc.
while vB is for those who want to have a serious package and great support, and be a part of a good community and a fine license agreement - flexible software for a growing community.
I am not into warez one bit!! But the point here is that you should be able to discuss what ever you want with discussion software, otherwise it defeats the object.
If you're not into warez then you have nothing to worry about. You can discuss anything you want, but you cannot promote piracy or intellectual property infringement. I think most email providers (probably even your ISP) have similar clauses in their Terms of Service.
Do you just like inventing injustices so you can fight the good fight for the freedom of the oppressed blahblahblah? Gimme a break.
I won't say why I think vbulletin is better; it depends on what your needs are. However it is worth looking at what the "big people" use for their forum software. We have a list http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47430 of some of the big forums that use vbulletin. It might be worth asking at other companies sites for a list of their biggest forums.
Hitman,
As a software company we understand the problems people using warez cause. It will be hypotcritical to have measures in place to stop people pirating our software but not worry if our software is then used to pirate other peoples software. You also need to look up the meaning of free speech; no where does free speech enable you to aid in the distribution of material. I just hope for your sake your livelihood is never dependant on intellectual material.
looks like VB users don't have [the] luxury [of free speech].
What an assinine thing to say. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it.
Tonnes of products are sold with such disclaimers. If your panties are in a knot over that little clause, I'd advise that you never read any other license agreements. You might die of shock.
Stupid warez kids. :rolleyes:
As for terms of service and licenses, has anyone read the license agreement for their Windows O/S yet? All software have license agreements that attempt to cover all bases.
I notice that both infopop & VB more or less tell you what you can & cannot discuss (within the licence), I find this difficult to understand....you sell discussion forum software, yet there are certain topics that you can not discuss with it? even if you pay for it. Surely we can use it to discuss what ever we want once paid for!!
Where does it say what you "can and cannot " discuss? That's a bit of an overstatement isn't it? The ToS refers only to warez/intellectual property violations.
Why would you care, unless you want to run a warez forum? And if you were, why would you complain? How could you be into warez and at the same time be stopped dead in your tracks by a script's License Agreement?
Weird.
:rolleyes:
Surely we can use it to discuss what ever we want once paid for!!
I know that you are losing out on a lot of sales because of this, just my opinion.
I am not into warez one bit!! But the point here is that you should be able to discuss what ever you want with discussion software, otherwise it defeats the object. also I notice that you say you have a large list of big companies who use VB, I would think that most of these purchased VB before phpbb was released...can we see a list of all the big companies that have purchased VB since the release of phpbb2, I bet it is not that big.
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